August 11, 2022


Self reliance and independence

How to Conduct a Prepper Exercise with Dave Jones the NBC Guy

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hello, everyone out there at radio land and welcome prepping up with the Joneses where each week we tackle the toughest questions in the prepper arena.

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I’m your host, Dave Jones, the NBC guy, that’s nuclear, biological, chemical, and I want to be your personal weapon of mass instruction. I promise my listeners two things each week. First that they’ll learn something new and second that there’ll be entertained in the process. So here we go with show number 12. How about that? I made it to 12 shows. I can’t believe it. Oh, Hey.

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And I hope you really enjoyed that two part show that Dane and I did a two part show with two hosts, Dana gunmetal armory on Thursday nights. I think it made for a really great shows, two shows, and we had a lot of fun doing it. I’ll tell ya. So, Hey, so I want to ask everybody, that’s listening to email Dane and tell him, do you want to join the build class?

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I mean that’s, if you want to join. Okay. So what, what do you and I had talked about doing was this AR 15 build class. Oh, the internet. Okay. And he’s gonna take, take you step by step through how to build an AR 15, you know, so you’re going to get all your own parts. You’re going to save 40% on this weapon for, because you’re building it yourself.

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So whatever Dane charges for this class is, it’s going to be a heck of a deal. So yeah, wait, I already have two people signed up me and my neighbor and tell him and tell him you want to be a part of this. I mean, that’s, if you want to learn how to build an AR 15, so let’s see tonight show, we got two great interviews. One with Rebecca fish, from emergent bio solutions. And they’re the maker of RSDL, which happens to be my sponsor and then one with Tim Welsh.

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But before we get into those, let’s talk about the news and I’m paying attention to chat rooms. If you guys have any questions, just put her up there. I will do my best. Yeah. We had a couple of technical difficulties. We getting the kinks worked out. Dang, gee, man. He impressed me just before we went on the air, he pulled the last two teeth that he had to pull. He did it himself. I mean, Holy crap.

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Can you imagine that pulling your own teeth? I don’t think I could have done it. So I have a new found respect for G man. I mean, I’ve always did respecting for all that he does, but Holy crap. Yeah, ouchies right. Anyway, back to the news, the flu is going nuts right now. I guess you all heard about this, but the flu isn’t going as nuts as the damn media is. So they’re making a lot bigger deal about this then.

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And I think it’s a push to get everybody this flu shot. I don’t know what’s going on there. The death rate is still lower than years past, but they’re making a big deal about this flu. And I, I found out that I did not have the flu last week I had, I was fighting off the chicken box. So the chicken box is in the Jones household right now. So if you hear a crying kid in the background, that’s my little boy, my five-year-old yes.

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If anybody has any remedies for itching, just, just put them up there in the chat room and I’ll get my wife in here to write it down. So she did the oatmeal bath and things like that. She’s doing everything. She’s, she’s amazing. I got to get her on the show one night. Another thing in the news. Well, actually it wasn’t in the news. I heard about this. There you’re going to have to Google it because it happens sometime in July two Canadian research scientists wanted to see if they could make horse pox in the laboratory.

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And they did this by getting little spices of different DNAs from different laboratories. So they wouldn’t set off any red flags. And they were able to produce horse pox, which is a cousin to smallpox in a rudimentary laboratory for the cost of around a hundred thousand dollars. And that’s not the cost of it. They published how they did this online.

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So now every halfway decent funded terrorist group there is can get this information and learn how to make smallpox. And I read the article and it was, they said, this will help people discover the cure for cancer. I’m like, what, what that this will help people kill us is what it will do. I know that is awful. Why would they do such a thing? Yeah.

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If, if I could make a nuclear bomb, I sure wouldn’t put it on the internet on how to do it, Google it you’ll be able to read all about it happened in July. Also some personal news. My son is not going to South Korea after all. Yeah. So he was all set to go last Wednesday and Monday he gets called into the captain’s office and they said, Nope, you’re not going, no, that is great.

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Mom was doing back flips. So he said, dad, everything happens for a reason. And I sure pity the guy that has to go now because whatever it is, he’s out of it. He got all his shots, had his orders, got his plane tickets, everything. I mean, he was packed, ready to go. And they pulled the plug. So yeah. Gone idea. Yeah. Maybe the prayers did work.

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I’m getting this in the chat room. I’ll tell you, his grandma was praying and she wore her knees out and she I’m pretty sure it worked. Okay. So let me set up this first interview. It’s Rebecca fish. She’s the vice president of sales in emergent bio solutions. It’s a big multinational corporation biopharmaceutical, and they make this RSDL.

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And so I I’ve been trying to get them on for a long time and finally her schedule and my schedule hooked up and we were able to get to a little conference room where we did this. So there a put Dane’s email address in there. If you guys want to do that, AR build class, send him an email in the chat room, D E D

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There you go. Okay. Back to the interview. So Rebecca was kind enough to answer my questions. I’m not sure if I put her on the spot a little bit, but I did ask her a lot about RSDL the company and why they decided to do this right now. So here we go with the interview with Rebecca. Okay. So we’re here with Rebecca fish and today we’re going to be talking about RSDL, it’s a skin decontaminate from emergent bio solutions, and it’s now available for sell for the first time directly to the public, through Amazon.

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So you all know about Amazon and if you go to Amazon, all you gotta do is type RSDL in the search bar and it will come up. They also have a website, R S D L And it will tell you more information about the company and the product. And the lawyers wanted me to put this disclaimer in there that I am actually a paid consultant through emergent. But what the lawyers don’t know is I’d be conducting this interview, whether they paid me or not.

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Cause I really believe in this product. So welcome to the show, Rebecca.

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Thank you. Well, thanks for giving me the opportunity to be here today.

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Well, sure. Rebecca, can you give us a brief introduction to emergent bio solutions and your role in the company?

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Absolutely. So I work for a company, as you said, called emergent bio solutions. And we’re an organization that develops and manufacturers medical countermeasures against biological and chemical threats. So this would be things like anthrax, smallpox, and botulism, as well as products against emerging infectious diseases. Many of these items are stockpiled by the CDC here in the U S and they’re also used by the department of defense and we work closely with international ministries of health and defense to help them protect their populations.

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And in terms of my role, I work as the vice president of marketing here at the company. And what that really means is that I help guide the strategy development for our product portfolio.

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Okay. Well, and my listeners have heard me talk about RSD on the past, but what is all I know it’s an acronym.

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Absolutely. So RSDL stands for reactive skin decontamination. Okay. Lotion kit. The simplest way to think of it is that it’s a, a skin decontaminate that removes or neutralizes a known chemical warfare agents. And it does it in a single step. So some of the agents that it might work against include Soman and BX. So some of the

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They’re really bad ones. Yeah. So how is it packaged?

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So it’s a sponge that contains a neutralizing agent. It’s almost like a lotion in the sponge is one way to think about it. It’s packaged in a portable, lightweight packet. So it’s quite easy to carry and store. It’s important to note that this product is the only decontaminate cleared by the U S FDA. And it’s also been used by the U S military for over 10 years. In fact, we just signed a contract to supply the DOD with RSDL for the next five years as well.

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So we’re really very proud to help protect us war fighters against chemical threats.

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Hey, so why does emergent believe that RSDL will be evaluated to preppers and the prepper community?

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It’s a great question. So we’ve undertaken a lot of market research amongst preppers and our research suggests that there’s a lot of interest in this product amongst this community. These are people that value preparedness and planning ahead, and they liked the idea. We found a, of having the same level of protection as the U S military. In fact, 78% of people in our research indicated an interest in purchasing RSDL when they first learned about the product.

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The fact, the fact that it’s FDA cleared, I think, and has been used by DOD for 10 years, really seemed to resonate with people. And there really isn’t any other products out there on the market. Like RSDL we found the fact that it’s lightweight fairly small was also an important point for people. You can put it in a bug out bag or a survival kit pretty easily. And we believe that the average prepper, you know, wants to be prepared, ready to protect his or her family.

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So this sort of made product made sense as a product to have,

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Well, I’ve always said it’s a must have for your bug out bag. He why’d did emergent decide to offer this to civilians right now.

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So if you listen to the government briefings, you’ll often hear this phrase that the threat matrix is increasing. Yes. And what they mean is that the risk of someone using either a chemical or a biological weapon is probably greater now than it has been in the past because of the technology being more accessible. So the threat could be someone like a North Korea who, you know, reportedly used chemical weapons. As recently as 2017, it could be a non state actor like ISIS, or it can be a completely different kind of events, but it pays to be prepared, I guess what we think.

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And we feel like the prepper movement is growing. It’s gaining traction, it’s becoming more widespread. So this made sense to us. Now we also even see growing interest in this movement and amongst

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Other countries, why did it show a couple of weeks ago for, with a prepper from the UK? And it was one of my most listened to shows. Could you share some of your other research and what did you find? That was interesting.

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Yeah. So we think there are a lot of misconceptions about preppers and that really came out in the research. We found that preppers often get depicted in the media as extremists, and there’s almost this negative spin to how they’re portrayed, right? And our research certainly suggests that your average prepper is a person simply trying to do right by his or her family. They have college degrees, they have a job they’re in your neighborhood. They’re there all around you. And it’s been funny to us to even see here in the company that people would start to tell us they were preppers after they saw the research.

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And after they saw some of the findings and after we addressed some of the myths misconceptions that exist. So there were a lot more people here internally that are preppers than we even initially realized. So they felt it was safe to come. Exactly.

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Yeah. You can’t see it right now, but Rebecca and I both have our tenfold hats on. So can you tell us more about, oops, wait a minute. Let’s see here. I have these written down cause I’m old and I will forget. So can you tell us more about RSDL and how long you should let it on your skin before you wash it off? Can you wash it off?

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Sure. Can we talk about that? So I guess when you look at an RSDL pack at each pack, it has enough product in it to decontaminate your hands, your neck, your face, and the inside surface of a respiratory that respirator, if you happen to be wearing one, if you needed to use the product, you’d allow it to remain on your skin for about two minutes and then you would remove it when the conditions allow you to do so.

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Sure. And how much does RSDL costs and where can you buy it?

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Great question. So, as you mentioned at the start RSDL is currently for sale on Amazon.

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Yeah. Only so far.

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Very exciting for us to get it available there. And it’s priced at 49 99. And this includes one green packet, which is the active ingredient. So this is the real packet. That price also includes a blue packet, which has no active ingredient. And the, the idea here is that the demonstration packet allows people to open the product, to see how it feels and looks before you’d actually need to use it. So it’s very nice for educational or training purposes. So to summarize there, the green packet is the real product and the blue packet is the demonstration or the practice packet.

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And you get one of each when you buy RSDL. And I think you again mentioned at the start, there’s a website RSDL that has a lot of information. There’s a video, and you can also get some important safety information there. And certainly I think we hope that nobody ever faces a situation where you actually need to use RSDL. However, in the spirit of being prepared, we feel like it’s good to have this available if you need it.

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Absolutely like an insurance policy. Exactly. You hope you don’t need to use it, but you have it if it’s there. So you get both of the packets, which is really good because later on in this show, I’m going to talk about conducting an exercise, how you would conduct an exercise with your family and practice doing some of this stuff. So that’s great that you get the practice packet with it. You get any kind of feedback from the preppers.

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Yeah. So we’ve had some really nice feedback and support from the prepper community. Since we launched the product in September, we’ve had positive reviews from people who are sort of seen as thought leaders in this space. We’ve also seen interest from some of the large prepper distributors. So we’re very excited about the reception so far, but we do want to spread the word so that more people in the community are aware that the product is available. I would say that’s been, our biggest challenge is just getting the word out.

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Yeah. Yeah. Because preppers don’t really respond well to normal advertising. Some sort of learning about the space. Yeah. So any last comments before we go to commercial break?

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Well, I guess first of all, just thank you for giving me the opportunity to be here. We’re really proud to be a company that helps protect civilians and war fighters from Bernie threats. And now we’re really excited to be able to bring some of these products to a broader audience. So thanks for giving me a chance to be part of yourself.

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Okay. We’re back. How about that interview? You’d actually think I know what I’m doing. The next interview is with Tim Mick Welch. Okay. Hey, and like I said, the chat room, I think Rebecca is a prepper. She just didn’t want to come out because she, she really talks it when you’re, when you’re together with her. And she talks about, you know, it seems firsthand to me, but she hasn’t admitted it yet.

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Anyway, it takes a while to come around, you know, come out of the closet, so to speak. Anyway, the next interview with Tim McWell. She is at three time, New York times bestselling author. He’s written six books on survival. I would say he’s a survival and bushcraft expert. He runs classes here in Virginia. And you know, if you want to book a class, you can go on his website out.

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I’ll put it in the chat room, book a class. And he is a number one in my book. So, well you probably have one of his books in your prepper library right now, so you can check it out. It’s one of them is how to survive anything, how to survive off, off grid. There’s one on bushcraft. I think I have all of his books. He is fantastic. So here we go with Tim Owen.

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Tim is a great teachers that Beth says, here we go with Tim Mick Welch. Okay. I am here with Tim Mick Welch, three time, New York times bestselling author writes for outdoor life since like forever, right? Yep. And off-grid magazine. He has a, how many

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Books now? Five, four,

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There are six books out there with my name on it.

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Awesome. I think I have everyone, but that last one.

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Well, now I know what to get you for your belated birthday.

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Yeah, you sure could. I’d appreciate it. So we’re talking with Tim today and if you have any questions you can email me and I’ll make sure that Tim gets it. Or do you have email? Yes.

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Sure. I’ll share my email with the, with the nice listeners out there. So folks can, can reach out to me through my website, which is advanced survival So that’s advanced with a D survival And then my email address is So you can find out about the classes that I run in the mid Atlantic, and you can shoot me your questions.

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Sure. Hey, what is the name of your latest book? I can see the cover, but I can’t picture the name. It’s green.

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Yeah. So the, the latest book is called the ultimate bushcraft survival manual. And so this one goes back into our ancestors skills and forward a little bit into historical survival skills and classic camping skills too. So this is kind of the book that you’d want to have with you if you just had, you know, like, let’s say, you know, you’re, you’re surviving with a knife and a hatchet and a book. Well, you’d want this to be that book.

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Absolutely. Well then I am two books behind cause I was thinking of surviving off the grid I think, or something like that.

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Yeah, that was, that was number four. No, I’m sorry. Number five. Yeah, that was number five. You want to get caught up? We’ll make that happen.

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Oh, Hey. Y’all I’ve since it’s a new year and you know, everybody’s looking to make their goals and things like that with their prepper dollars, what do you see is the number one thing, a prepper should spend their money on to get the most bang for their buck?

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That’s a great question, Dave. You know, I, I kind of wish I could, I could ponder it a little longer rather than just go with a knee jerk reaction, but you know, the knee jerk reaction, this is kinda cool. It tells you what people are already thinking about. And, and so I think a great place for people to spend their dollars. And, and this is where I plan to spend. Some of my dollars is in good tasting, long life food storage.

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So, you know, we can, we can get the buckets of beans and we can get the buckets of rice and, and, and that’ll taste fine for a meal or two, and then we’ll get creative and we’ll mix the beans and the rice together and that’ll be meal number three or four, and then we’re gonna die of pallet fatigue because we can’t stand to eat another plain bowl of rice with no flavor in it. So I would like to, you know, take this, take this year to, to ramp my food storage a little bit more, you know, add a few more months worth of food for the family.

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And I also want it to taste good. Oh yeah, yeah. We’re going to do it. Let’s do it. And if we’ve got food that tastes good or can be prepared in a way that’s, that’s tasty. If we’ve got that sitting on the shelves, then we’re more likely to rotate our food storage. And this is where I think a lot of preppers fall down on the job. We’re not rotating the stuff. Right. We buy it because we think we need it and we throw it in a closet and the dust starts to pile up on it.

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And, and, you know, it’s kinda like our doomsday insurance policy, but, but we’re not taking care of it. So I think rotation is, is a big key to a successful food storage plan. And I think most people don’t do it and I don’t do it as well as I should.

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Yeah. Well I think no one does. I mean, you’re, you’re actually giving me a good plug for one of my future shows is how to conduct an exercise. And it was to, to get people to get that stuff out of the closet, use it, see what the limitations are and learn how to use. Yeah. You know,

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Cooking with staples is a whole skill unto itself. So I think that would be a good, a good new year’s resolution. If you want to call it, that is to, is to get your food supply in order, you know, get it to where you can rotate it and make it taste good.

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Yup. And we were talking about training. So, you know, I think there’s no better way to spend your prepper dollars than to take some new course, learn some new skill that you can be more marketable after the grid goes down.

5 (28m 33s):
You know, something to add to your post-apocalyptic resume. That’s nice. I like that. I like that a lot. So yeah, maybe a, maybe an electronics repair course stuff. How about, yeah. Basic automotive repair. Oh my God. You know, how handy would that be? I’ve actually started running some blacksmithing classes due to popular demand. Cool. And I’ll tell you, I, I can’t, I can’t put enough of them on the schedule. People are snatching them up. And the nice part about that is even if we don’t end up in a mad max wasteland with assless, chaps and Mohawks, you can still enjoy blacksmithing just for an art form.

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You know, just as a pastime, you know, not, not because you need to make a swords to, to stave off the hordes of marauders. Okay. I have to tell you this. So

4 (29m 29s):
Yeah, about two years ago, Tim and I, we, we ha this is a zombie story. Okay. So this is,

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This is funny. Yeah. All your walking, dead fans out there, a brace for impact. Yeah. So

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About two years ago, we’re doing shows with SGK gun shows and prepper shows and you know, the gun shows one of the go into the prepper show. So they, they ran both of them together. So they, Tina, the lady that produces these shows and organize it she’s phenomenal, but she would do a questionnaire. And anybody that filled out the questionnaire that put it in a box, it’d be entered for a free raffle or something like that.

4 (30m 13s):
Well, the first time that they ask, what are you most afraid of when you’re prepping or what are you prepping up for 7% came back zombies, zombie apocalypse, the second show, sorry, the second show. 14%. So it doubled. So zombies are on so many people’s minds. She comes to Tim and I and says, would you guys do a presentation on how you could possibly be a zombie or so we actually did a class on the zombie apocalypse and we’ve covered all the different ways you could be or become a zombie and how this thing could occur.

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Go ahead. Add something to it because this is just unbelievable.

5 (31m 12s):
Well, I told you walking dead fans to, to brace for impact. So I hate to break this to you in a, in a, in any manner whatsoever, but Dave and I are non-believers, we, we are not, we’re not going to go out on the limb and say that that the zombies are real, have been real or could be real in the, in the traditional sense, you know, an undead creature wandering around munching on brains, right. W we just don’t really see it in the cards.

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And, and, and we actually, we kind of made the mistake during our presentation of, of mentioning that. And wouldn’t, you know, it, a group of young gentlemen actually stood up and walked out three, three 20 something year old gentlemen, just left, I guess they did not want to sit in a lecture, run by people who were non-believers. But

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Tim generated a lot of interest in this because he went around the show, dressed up like a zombie and had one of those sandwich board signs come to the show or come to the briefing and obtain it. I got more people attended that then attended my nuclear, biological, chemical warfare class.

5 (32m 26s):
Isn’t that surprising? Yeah. I mean, now, now you didn’t have a guy in a zombie mask with a bloody sandwich board that said, follow me to the zombie seminar. So, so you didn’t have that, but, but you know, all things considered, I think, I think it’s, I think it’s pretty telling pretty and surprising too, that, you know, we, we would have more interest in, in a zombie seminar than, than something that really could, that has happened. It can happen again.

5 (32m 56s):
So, so, but it was a lot of fun and, and our, our sucker punch at the end of the seminar was that, Hey, even if there aren’t zombies, you know, here’s some good tips for emergency preparedness for disaster preparedness. Yeah. So we, we lured them in with the zombie and then we closed with here’s what you’d need for any disaster zombie or otherwise. Right. So we felt good.

4 (33m 16s):
Yeah. We, we did our job and everybody came out of there entertained and more prepared, at least educated. What else would you like to talk about? How much time do we have? Oh, we got time. He got plenty of time. You just take as much as you want. Okay. Thank you. You wanna talk about your classes? Sure. He does a new year’s Eve. Is it? W yeah. It’s okay. It’s new year’s Eve edible plant class.

4 (33m 49s):
How did that go this year? Well,

5 (33m 51s):
You know, in the past couple of years, we’ve, we’ve had a great turnout for our new year’s Eve wild edible plant class. And my bribe for, for my, for my Intrepid explorers is some wild foraged inspired cocktails. Cool. So this year we did a, we did a, a maple syrup, a homemade maple syrup eggnog with bourbon Oh nine. And in the past we’ve done, we’ve done spice, Bush flavored zombies, which is, you know, the fruit, the fruit and rum drink, not the, not the monster, the, the fruit and rum drink, and we’ve done maple syrup, wine, and, and mold wine, and just all kinds of different things in, in the past.

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And that’s been a lot of fun, you know, to be able to, to take a day where no one really does anything during the day. Yeah. And, and to give people something really fun and productive, you know, something educational, something enlightening. So I’ve, I’ve been really happy with that. And I look forward to continuing that tradition, you know, for, for the coming years to run a foraging class on new year’s Eve. But if you’re not into the cold that’s okay. It was cold. It was cold. It was brutal.

5 (35m 11s):
We, we hunkered down in a teepee and had a big fire going and drank lots of eggnog for, from morale. I think it was,

4 (35m 20s):
Or something like that. New year’s Eve. It was cool.

5 (35m 23s):
Yeah. With the window, it was, it was pretty rough for us, Virginia boys. I’m sure. Folks listening up North are like, Oh, you know, that’s, that’s bikini weather, but that, that was rough for us. Cause we’re not used to it. But, but yeah, I just, I I’ve so blessed to be able to run classes for over 20 years here in here in Virginia. And, you know, I, I, I think what I bring to the table that, that a lot of people don’t is my, my joy for the subject matter that I teach, you know, I I’ve, I’ve recently started doing these blacksmithing classes because I love doing blacksmithing.

5 (35m 60s):
And I love being able to share that with people to see their face light up, when they move a piece of metal. I made that, I made that, yeah. That see people beam with pride and to show them that they don’t need a lot of expensive equipment or, you know, a bunch of elaborate tools. You, you can, you can forge the way we do it. It’s sort of a backyard bushcraft style of, of, of doing blacksmithing. And it can be done on a shoe string budget for, for very cheap. And that’s what we show people how to do.

4 (36m 31s):
Well, it would be exactly the way you’d be doing it if the grid went down.

5 (36m 35s):
Yeah. Yeah. Our, our forge, our outdoor forge is, is under open sky and it’s completely non-electric. There are no motorized pieces of, of equipment. There are no motorized blowers. There’s no grinders, there’s no welder, you know, we’re, we’re doing stuff the way that the people did it back in the day and you know what, that’s a sustainable way to do things. Yeah. And so all of the classes I run, you know, we have a thread of sustainability running through them.

5 (37m 6s):
And, and again, it’s just a, it’s a privilege and a blessing to be able to share what I love with people who are excited about it too. Yeah. You know, I don’t do corporate team building programs because half the people out there want to be there. Right. And I don’t want to spend my time trying to convince people who will never be convinced that there’s any value in this stuff. I want to share what I know with people who will appreciate it. You know, just like any one of us, you know, we don’t want to throw our pearls before the swine, you know, we want to, we want to share what we know with, with people that, that are going to like what we have to say.

4 (37m 45s):
You have some pretty simple rules. Like when you, my wife found those mushrooms and I, I texted you and I said, Hey, what about these mushrooms? And you said, stairway in the mushrooms.

5 (37m 58s):
Yeah. Yeah. So I teach a wild edible plant class. Yeah. Not a wild edible fun guy class. And, and you know that

4 (38m 7s):
Basically, you said, don’t eat anything yet. You don’t already know you can eat. Yeah. Yeah. Which is great as well.

5 (38m 14s):
Yeah. You want to have positive identification of any species, whether it’s plant FUM guy or even an animal, you know, you’d want to know what you’re eating exactly what you’re eating and you want to know a safe way to prepare it. And so that’s, you know, that’s one of those, that’s one of those heritage skills,

4 (38m 31s):
Practical, common sense. I mean, don’t eat it unless, you know what? Yep.

0 (38m 36s):
And so now she has, she got the plugs and everything she’s grown, her own mushrooms are coming from a news source.

5 (38m 44s):
Yeah. Yeah. And that’s a safe way to do it. Where, where you’re cultivating known species, you know, in a, in a habitat where they’re kind of isolated in a log, you know that you’ve cut down and you’ve got it. You’ve got it sitting up, you know, not just some random mushroom growing in your yard. That’s how people get poisoned. A guy in this County, a guy in this County was in the intensive care unit at fuck your hospital. About three years ago, he just mowed. His grass, saw a cute little mushroom, popped it in his mouth, chewed it up, swallowed.

5 (39m 14s):
It kept on mowing the grass a couple of days later, he’s in intensive care. And he just about lost his liver. A lot of times when you get the wrong Shroom, it poisons your liver. Now, very few people die from this. So, so the Darwin awards don’t get handed out easily because of the advanced medical care we have today. Right. You know, you can get the right meds to stop that, that poison, that you’ve ingested. And you know, you can go on dialysis. You can, you can get a liver transplant, long story short.

5 (39m 45s):
We don’t see a body count in this country. Like you see in other countries when people get it wrong. So stick to the plants or, or stick to something with a pulse, you know, that’s right. Birds, reptiles, mammals. Yeah,

0 (39m 59s):
Exactly where they come. Hey. So before we go to commercial break, tell me your website again.

5 (40m 5s):
Yes, sir. Thank you. So folks can find out more about me, my classes, my That’s advanced with a D survival And folks can also follow me on Facebook. And I’m on Twitter at Tim Mack Welch. T I M M a C w E L C H.

0 (40m 25s):
Okay. Thanks so much for coming by Tim.

5 (40m 28s):
Thank you, Dave. My pleasure.

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Okay. We’re back. How about those interviews? Huh? You really think we knew what we’re doing? Hey, you get 15% off. If you used the word prepper and your legacy food. So that was Tim’s number one thing that he’s going to do for the new year. Hey, and since we’re, since we’re still in January, we still have new year’s resolutions and things like that. We’re going to talk a little bit about exercising.

1 (42m 45s):
Okay. And I don’t mean calisthenics. I mean, conducting an exercise. So the army had this thing where they, they would talk about exercises in a crawl, walk, run type scenario. So first your crawl, it means don’t bite off more than you can choose you. You want to be able to conduct an exercise and have success. Okay?

1 (43m 15s):
You don’t want to conduct an exercise where you know, you’re going to fail. You already know, you know, if it’s too much too big, too fast, too hard. So start small and work your way up. You want to build on success. So, and this too, a lot of preppers will take their gear, put it in the corner. And it’s in storage.

1 (43m 45s):
My good friend rigs, the guy that invented the, a charger. Okay. He was, he was so happy. I got to stop clicking that pen. You’re probably hearing it. He was so happy that I got, I got every one of his kids. Every time I saw him at a show, I got another kid. Well, the next time I see him, he says, how’s it working out for you? I said, well, Alan, I put that on the shelf. I’m saving it. You know? And you could see the look of disappointment on his face. I mean, it just, just deflated.

1 (44m 18s):
So don’t put it on the shelf, get it out, use it, see how wit works. Okay. I may ask this all the time, because when I get to the number one that will kill you in a nuclear, biological, or chemical attack, and we all know that it’s panic, right? Panic. And I’m asked this all the time. How do you not panic? Well, you, what you have to do is practice.

1 (44m 48s):
You have to practice an exercise to understand your capabilities and know your limitations. Okay? So if you have a good feel of where you are, what you can and cannot do, you are less likely to pay. Okay? So here’s just some little tips, techniques, some things you can do, and you can do these, like right now, whether you live in an apartment building or a subdivision, or, you know, you’re out in the boonies like me.

1 (45m 23s):
So start by trying to make a meal, make a meal, not in your house. And it could be a simple meal. He can run the noodles, but I’ll tell you what, you will learn a lot in the process of boiling water. So break out whatever your camp stove is, break it out, test it out, see how it works. You know, no matter what the conditions are. If you say I’m going to do this on Saturday, do it on Saturday, whether it’s raining, snowing, or it’s sunny, just do it because you’ll also learn what the limitations are.

1 (46m 5s):
If it’s raining, if can’t light that fire, you’ll figure out a way. And what you’re doing is you’re figuring out this stuff before the pressure is on. Okay. When I used to, I would teach a class on the emergency operation center in Pennsylvania, the EOC. And I’d tell all the state agencies that had a liaison officers, Le let bows or whatever.

1 (46m 36s):
We had acronym, form, liaison officers. I would tell them the first time I see you come into the EOC. Shouldn’t be when the disasters happening, you should come in there. When there’s no pressure, see that you can log onto the computer, learn where the div supplies are. Use the communication tools that we have when there’s no pressure. And it should be the same way with that stove because you know how Murphy is right emergency operation center.

1 (47m 15s):
That’s what an EOC is. It’s a kind of like that, you know, war games, where they had all the computer consoles and a big screen TV, kinda like that. There was all different agencies there. State police department, transportation, environmental resources, how even corrections corrections was there. They had a lot of free resources. They had a, well, I digress. Anyway, let’s get back to your exercise.

1 (47m 46s):
So once you prepare that meal, you could check that off. You should be able to write down all a list right now for the coming year of all the things that you want to break out of your gear and try. You want to try that food. One of those, if you’ve never eaten a freeze dried meal, you should eat a freeze dried meal to see how you prepare it, right?

1 (48m 19s):
You have to use hot water and you have to let it soak long enough for it to taste like something. And once you taste it, you can say, dang, that needs some salt or some hot sauce or something like that, because you’re not going to eat a food that doesn’t taste good. You’re, you’re going to be less likely to eat. So you need to, you need to try it out, try and make it another thing you can do.

1 (48m 53s):
So remember I said that if your plan involves electricity, it’s probably a bad plan. So you could go to your main power switch, you know, your circuit breaker box and hit them. That cuts all the power in your house. And I’m not saying do this for a long period of time, but start, start with maybe a few hours or a day. Just go a day without power.

1 (49m 25s):
I’m lucky up here on the mountain because we go without power about every two or three months. And it usually lasts for a day or two. So I get to exercise that part of my plan pretty regularly here. Yes, you can have solar, but just know that any kind of longterm use of electricity, it’s, it’s gonna run out eventually, you know, batteries eventually die.

1 (49m 56s):
They won’t hold a charge. Even your cadmiums, the ones that recharge, they have a life too. So you should only have electricity for the absolute vital pieces of equipment. And then you should have backups for each one of those. And just know that it’s going to last as long as it’s going to last. And you know, if you get into a mad max situation, you, you might be trading someone for batteries and stuff like that.

1 (50m 27s):
Let’s see, I’m trying to read the chat room here. Yeah. Yeah. Hand tools. Definitely. Good old hand tools. The hand drill, the soap that you saw back in the old days, you would like a Seesaw for two people cutting down a tree. You should have all this stuff on hand, cleaned it up, sharpen it up like that.

1 (51m 1s):
So let’s say you’ve, you’ve now cut the power. You’ve made major meals. Each, each day. You make meals with the power off on you. This, my kids actually look forward to the power going off because all the electronics die in the house. No computers, no pads, no phones, nothing. And we actually get out the board games and we play.

1 (51m 32s):
We spend more time together and they love it. Heck in the wintertime, we even sleep together in the same room cause I’m heating with wood and it only goes so far. So we it’s just a fantastic bonding time and they love it. They never so much attention from mom and dad. So once you’ve done that, then you need to start expanding on your exercise. And there’s, there’s a thing that we would do in the called an a, our after action review or some people call it a after action report.

1 (52m 11s):
You know, you would write it down, all the good and all the bad you, we able to find the holes in your plan. If you cut the power and you last all weekend with the power off, you’ll find the holes. You’ll find the holes in the heating, the power lights, the cooking, all of that. The next time you do it, you know, fix those, fix those holes and then try it again.

1 (52m 42s):
You lost power in the house. Yup. Headed to the travel trailer. Yeah. Well, that’s nice. That’s nice. If you have that. Absolutely. You have a backup home. That’s great. You also got to worry about pipes might freeze in the winter. So in house, I mean, so the a R and write it, write it all down. Then you need to expand upon your exercise.

1 (53m 15s):
So what you’ll do is involve more people bringing in the people in your group. And you remember when Dane and I were talking about traveling and movement, okay, that’s something you just don’t pick up. You have to practice that land navigation. It’s a perishable skill. You need to practice that every so often to be able to maintain whatever level of proficiency that you have.

1 (53m 49s):
And then yeah, it came up in the chat room, do an a R every day. Sure. And if your power’s off for three, five days, do do, you know, continuing, you know, to adjust. And that’s what you do in a normal situation. Each time you conduct one of these exercises, your proficiency goes up, you get more confidence, okay. You know what your limitations are and you get better and better.

1 (54m 24s):
If you put this stuff on the shelf, you, you might as well not have it. If you don’t know how to operate it, right? Walkie talkies, you got to get used to those. You got to change the channels. You got to give it to other people and talk back and forth. You want to see what the range is on your walkie talkies. So start off on a little hike down the road, say, Hey, I’m going to call you. You call me, Oh, I’m getting the hook here.

1 (54m 56s):
Three minute warning. And this has been a fast show. How about that? Can we go longer? I know it’s just not enough to cover in a one hour show, but that means you’ll tune in next week. Cause anything that I miss in my notes, I will bring up next week. And next week’s show. I’m going to have Danny from bio light products on he’s going to give all our listeners a special deal.

1 (55m 30s):
If you don’t know what bio light is, it’s a camp stove that generates electricity. How about that? You got to check it out. Just Google it. Bio light. All their products will come up. You, you gotta have a fire anyways, build it in his camp stove and be able to charge your phone, your pad. You know, it has a little battery pack built in and it charges up. It’s pretty dang cool.

1 (56m 2s):
So a R’s Hey, for those of you don’t know, my email address is D And you can email me and ask me questions. Give me suggestions for future shows. Maybe it’s a question that you have that you just never had a really good answer for, for other preppers. And she said until my funny story. Okay. I’ll have two funny stories.

1 (56m 35s):
Other hosts each night. Yes. I have two funny stories for you next week since I didn’t have one this week. Okay. And Tim That’s Tim. Okay. I want to thank everybody for listening tune in next week. Hey, and don’t forget about tomorrow night show. Gee, man, what is that on tomorrow night? It’s eight o’clock. Isn’t it Eastern time. Let me see if I can find it.

1 (57m 9s):
And it’s herbal prepper. Where is it? I’m going up in the chat room. Come on, gee, man. Help me out. Everybody stay safe and I’ll see you here next weekend. Same time. Do we still, we still have a minute. Still have a minute. Oh gosh. Yeah. Dental care off the grid. That’s what the G man did. He pulled his own tooth about that 30 seconds.

1 (57m 44s):
Okay. Everybody take care, be safe. And we’ll see you here next weekend. Hopefully we won’t have any technical difficulties and we’ll come through loud and clear. I’m also going to try and get the silver guys back on for that, that silver. Get a special deal on some silver. Thanks everybody. Thanks for listening.

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